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    Default Leaf Springs

    Just found a '79 Scout II rolled on its side. Guy decided he didn't want to fix it anymore and he just put a 4" Spring lift kit and was wondering if it would fit under my '76 Traveler?

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    About the only things i could see that might not work is the length of the rear springs. I would suggest measuring eye to eye on the scout and then on the traveler.

    Then if they do fit they may not be stiff enough to support the rear weight of the additional 18" so expect some sagging in the rear if they do fit.

    Hope that helps.
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    Do you know if anyone offers a different Lift for a Scout II and For a Traveler because I can't even find options for a Traveler.

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    There's no difference in the two suspensions. They're the same frame set up, only the Traveler is 18 inches longer. Otherwise, they're no different, including load capacity for the suspension. The rear springs from a Scout II should hold up to whatever you want them to on a Traveler.

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    lindstromjd is right. Your traveller frame is a scout II frame. If you look underneath the bed you will see where they cut a scout II frame and welded in larger tube pieces to lengthen the frame.

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    THANKS guys but the guy flaked out and made things complicated so does anyone recomend a good place to get a kit and what would be a good one to get and how high wood be good because I was thinkn 4 might be to high but I haven't seen that many scouts with a lift where i live.

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    Depends on the kind of "ride" you want from your suspension and how much you're willing to spend. Skyjacker makes an excellent lift that rides smooth, but it's very spendy. Upwards of 1000.00 for everything you'll need. There are cheaper ones (500-600 range) like Rough Country (which I have installed 2 of on scouts including my current one) but they're a much rougher ride.

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    Triangle also makes a good lift spring set for the Scout II. I believe SSS carries them.
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    Thanks guys greatly appriciated now I know whick direction to head.

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    ---I would try and set up some sort of coil-over setup for the rear or a helper spring, but yes the leaf springs will work between the two. True they are the same, but the extra length adds leverage put on the rear IME. I have driven one of each around to the back of my house, through the grass, with no rear shocks and the Traveler is a boat compared to the Traveltop. Might only* be 18" but it does matter. What also matters is that the extra weight of the body will stress the springs more than the extra 200# or so of Traveltop when compared to the SSII. I would go with an extra/helper/coil-over spring in the back, and a shock with a comfortable rebound (compare with OEM Monroe and add more resistance to rebound).

    ---Extended brake lines will be needed. Caster shims shouldn't be, but that's your choice as to whether you want your driveline angle thrown off when correcting caster or your caster thrown off when correcting driveline angle. IIRC 4" required a 6 shim... and the shims need to have a radius on one side. Also the dropped pitman arm is arguable. Drag link would be better. Maybe from SuperScoutSpecialists.com (not sure if they have* them but hey), BackCountryBinders.com , ihonlynorth.com , maybe AnythingScout.com would also have them. BCB would be my* pick for custom welding. I threw a set of 1.5" extended (H-type, Heavy Duty) shackles on w/my 4" lift and it gave it good manners by bringing caster back around closer to sensible.

    ---If it's Skyjacker, they don't advertise 4"-5" on that lift anymore. The lift is 4" or very close, but their front shocks needed to be longer. I would honestly rate the front as a 4" suspension lift, but a 3" extended shock. So, I would go with a shock that is 1/2"-3/4" longer extended and compressed than the N8055s. I also installed recessed spring plates, but I will be installing some killer Hidden U-Bolt Plates soon to get rid of the Scout ness plates that I couldn't torque down to 60lb-ft without them bending and that I had to grind (plates and front axle) to fit a Scout II, when they were made for a Scout II.
    Last edited by Thomas; 10-28-2009 at 10:42 PM.
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